GZA in Afu-Ra’s album did this.
“…stab you with ice and watch the evidence melt/
immediately the blow is felt/

I might look like a hater coz i start wit the negative but this is just what came to my mind immediately i read the line

I’m a big fan of cannibal ox- cold vein is a classic no doubt- plus pick vast aire’s line in wu meets indie culture “…I’m pointing at the sky but you’re lookin at my finger..” VA is a trophy in my memory.

All said, that line on top ain’t ORIGINAL.

I’ll have to get the mighty Joseph album, not to search for ‘nibbles’ but to experience vast one more time

Peace

Cold Vein was amazing… don’t get me wrong but El-p’s beats helped the rhymes a great deal. Vast ain’t the worst mc around, but i just don’t feel it for him. Sometimes i feel he get’s alot of extra love cos he’s doin the underground thing which is cool, but there are alot of other high profiled, so-called ‘commercial mc’s that easily out rhyme him in all aspects.

i feel the commercial / underground rapper debate is too played out cos rhyming skill is rhyming skill no matter what beat you riding to.. and i feel Vast gets credit where sometimes it ain’t due… hope you getting me here

That being said i will surely give Mighty Jo & Cold Vein a good listen to see if i can pick out any of those linked rhymes schemes you mentioned.

Cheers man…

But as to the so-called “non-sense” and “random words” from Vast, I once had a similar perspective. But then I started putting some things together.

After listening to Cold Vein about a billion times, I found that a lot of those “non-sense” lines (in)directly relate to other parts of the album. “Random words” from one part of the album help to explain other cloudy parts of the album.

I think it is truely genius. If you listen to one track alone, certainly there will be some lines that don’t make sense. But to see an artist put together lyrics from an entire album perspective is rare and impressive.

That all being said, I gotta admit there are a ton of Vast lines that I still don’t get… and just might be nonsense afterall. But I still wonder if I just haven’t figured them out yet. Could he be connecting lyrics from multiple albums?? Or just throwing some BS in there along with some incredibly creative, yet apparently nonsense lyrics?? Hmm.

As for his delivery, I have always felt that is just personal preference, so I can respect where you are coming from.

Can’t speak for everything on this Mighty Jo just yet, but if you give Cold Vein another listen in its entirety, you might see what I’m saying. Peace.

bro… gotta disagree with you on Vast Aire. I don’t rate him at all. His rhymes are filled with non-sense alot of the time if u really break it down. His flow is lazy and basic at best, hardly innovative when u throw in random words cos it sounds good and rhymes.. He is a one-line rapper and always will be. Compare him to someone like Elzhi and his flow and concepts looks pre-school.

In agreement with this review, I too can listen to an endless stream from him.

And the review is also right on about Karniege - what a surprise. Gotta admit that I was sleeping on that.

I should say that I personally worship Can Ox’s Cold Vein (maybe the best hip hop album EVER - no joke) and I try to push anybody that hasn’t heard it towards it. The one thing I hear back time and time and time again is that Vast is dope, but the beats are just to abstract to handle.

Personally, I think El-P’s production on that is sick and may just be a little ahead of its time. But my point is, this Mighty Jo album is for those people. Dope beats on this new one - no doubt, but much more “traditional” in comparison to El-P.

I see HHL with the 4.5 on this one - I was wondering if it was going to catch the full 5.

If you don’t know Vast - get this. If you love Vast - get this. If you only know Vast with El-P and are not completely on board yet - get this. Peace.