Comments on: Article Has Hip-Hop Had an Adverse Effect on Our Young? http://www.hiphoplinguistics.com/news/2009/09/article-has-hip-hop-had-an-adverse-effect-on-our-young Hip-Hop Linguistics Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:29:45 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: MizzHitZ Beat Maker http://www.hiphoplinguistics.com/news/2009/09/article-has-hip-hop-had-an-adverse-effect-on-our-young/comment-page-1#comment-20327 MizzHitZ Beat Maker Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:43:16 +0000 http://www.hiphoplinguistics.com/?p=1837#comment-20327 This post was put together very well. I believe people make their own choices and act out of free will. A certain type of music can't make a person do anything. Now, I know some songs get people really pumped up, hence boxers listen to certain songs before a fight, but its clearly up to the person whether they take action. I do believe ganster rap and bad parenting plays a major factor in the lack of guidance in some of the youth today. I just graduated from high school less than 6 months ago and all I saw where people that blasted Rick Ross and Gucci Mane all through the hallways. And to be honest about 80% of the males that were listening to this music I saw smoking weed, dealing drugs, or always in detention or in trouble with the school's police me. It was amazing to see how clouded these kid's perceptions of reality were. They listened to rick ross and others like him and tried to mimic their actions and things they say in their songs. Now, I know for a fact Rick Ross was never a big fancy drug cartel. Its been all over the news numerous times but most of the kids that had very little guidance at home tried to do the things he said he was doing. I even had a friend that I knew that loved gucci Mane and all of that gangster rap. On graduation day he said he wasnt even going to college he was going to be a drug dealer because rick ross say they make good money. If the younger generation can see that today mainstream mussic is all for show and entertainment they'd be better off. But then I blame the parent. Lately there's been nothing but babies having babies. How do you expect someone to parent their own children when their parents werent even there for them. I dont blame anyone in the situation because blaming gets us nowhere just look at the economy people sit there and just blame bush or obama but no one's really doing anything. I say its time to tack action on these issues instead of just talking about them and do a better job as parents!<ul></ul> This post was put together very well. I believe people make their own choices and act out of free will. A certain type of music can’t make a person do anything.
Now, I know some songs get people really pumped up, hence boxers listen to certain songs before a fight, but its clearly up to the person whether they take action.
I do believe ganster rap and bad parenting plays a major factor in the lack of guidance in some of the youth today.
I just graduated from high school less than 6 months ago and all I saw where people that blasted Rick Ross and Gucci Mane all through the hallways. And to be honest about 80% of the males that were listening to this music I saw smoking weed, dealing drugs, or always in detention or in trouble with the school’s police me.
It was amazing to see how clouded these kid’s perceptions of reality were. They listened to rick ross and others like him and tried to mimic their actions and things they say in their songs.
Now, I know for a fact Rick Ross was never a big fancy drug cartel. Its been all over the news numerous times but most of the kids that had very little guidance at home tried to do the things he said he was doing.
I even had a friend that I knew that loved gucci Mane and all of that gangster rap. On graduation day he said he wasnt even going to college he was going to be a drug dealer because rick ross say they make good money.
If the younger generation can see that today mainstream mussic is all for show and entertainment they’d be better off. But then I blame the parent. Lately there’s been nothing but babies having babies.
How do you expect someone to parent their own children when their parents werent even there for them.
I dont blame anyone in the situation because blaming gets us nowhere just look at the economy people sit there and just blame bush or obama but no one’s really doing anything.
I say its time to tack action on these issues instead of just talking about them and do a better job as parents!
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                Artist have produced hip-hop music that has informed my understanding and beliefs over the years and cannot be considered anything other than part of my education. You saying it’s only got a dark side is from your experience which isn’t absolute because as you rightly said knowledge is relative.

                Hip-Hop informs Music, Dance, Fashion, Art and I would argue political and philosophical beliefs also. Hip-hop is nothing, as CTL quoted KRS earlier “hip’ is the knowledge, ‘Hop’ is the movement. Hip hop is intelligent movement.” Hip-hop is an movement an movement based on knowledge, anything else is just noise getting in the way of the idea…

                Maybe it’s your position which is hypocritical and pretentious, this is not said with contempt but merely in respect to the contradictions within your logic.

                I believe that hip-hop is not truly good or bad… It is merely a idea, that people have taken it’s name as a blanket term and repackaged it for their own reasons is something which every idea and movement has had to endure throughout history.

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